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Bag Of Chips Provokes Shouting Match In Class

Quiet students abhor such disturbances; disaffected kids willfully defy rules; teachers should maintain order; but that's oft easier said than done.

 

(Editor's note: This column is written by High School English teacher Jerry Heverly. Its tag line is inspired by education blogger Joe Bower who says that when his students do an experiment, learning is the priority. Getting the correct answer is entirely secondary.)

I had a very difficult class today. It concerned the issue of food in the classroom.

At a recent staff meeting the importance of the food rule was reiterated: food and drink (except water) aren’t allowed in our building. If we see food in our classrooms, we're supposed to seize it and throw it in the trash.

Consistency is important because teachers who do not enforce the rule make life much harder for those who were.

I have had massive problems with food all year. I have explained over and over to the students that they may not have food in the classroom. (“But I’m not eating it,” they plead.)

Every day I sweep up twenty to thirty candy wrappers, evidence that I’m losing the war.

Today I noticed a large clear plastic bag sitting next to the desk of one of my students. The mouth of an open bag of chips was sticking out of the top of the bag. At least one other, full bag was underneath.

I took the bag from the student. Because of the large quantity of food involved I wasn’t sure if I should trash it all so I decided to lock it in my desk until the end of the period. I thought I might ultimately discard the open bag and forward the rest to the office for someone higher up to adjudicate.

Before I even got the food secured away the student began screaming at me.

“What are you doing? You’re gonna give that food back to me! The office gave me that food!”

Apparently someone had sent this food to the student and he had picked it up in the office earlier.

The room quickly descended into an uproar. Several students were screaming about the injustice of my having taken the food. I tried to restore order so that I could explain the situation but the students were having none of that. They rained insults at me including a few curses.

I tried to reason with one girl but she put her hands over her ears saying she wasn’t going to listen to anything I had to say.

Then I noticed a commotion near my desk.

A student had yanked the door of my desk open and spilled the bag of food on the floor. The chips from the open bag were everywhere. A sealed bag was hanging half out of the desk door.

The student who owned the food now became even more incensed.

“You’re givin’ me that food back or else,” he vowed.

I lost my temper. I opened the sealed bag of chips and emptied them in the trash. 

I spent the next few minutes trying to gain enough quiet to explain myself to the class. Finally I was able to do this. I related the school policy and my reasons for taking the food.

This did nothing to mollify the students. They remained angry and raucous. Only when the indignant food bearer stormed out of the room did they calm down.

I expect many readers will find my behavior inadequate. They expect the teacher to quickly cow a class into submission. Trying to reason with irrational fourteen year olds appears weak.

I will stipulate that, yes, I made several errors; most importantly I tried to explain when every word simply made the situation worse.

All I can say in my own defense is that teaching is a forging of relationships with 150 different personalities.

Incidents like this reveal the bind I often find myself in.

 Quiet students need a decorous classroom devoid of drama.

Disaffected kids come to class spoiling for a fight. They feign ignorance of the rules and become indignant at any perceived slight.  Rules become a red flag.

And what’s most surprising is that tomorrow virtually all the students will have forgotten the whole thing. 

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Jessica Gardner November 9, 2012 at 02:56 pm
Maybe just maybe there was No food or money at home and maybe just maybe someone didn't want him to go hungry
Imagine if that's all you had to eat nutrition aside and some teacher who prior to that day it was okay for anyone and everyone to eat, had a few chips and then the teacher grabs it and then states the rules are now being enforced
Jessica Gardner November 9, 2012 at 02:59 pm
To all you working adults
Most jobs have policies too no using company assets fir personal use, people use company phone all the time fir non business. Just imagine one day, child calls you at work I'm on my way home from school and xyz happened and your boss comes by your desk and hands up the phone on your call... Hey we're now enforcing rules too bad
karen r November 9, 2012 at 04:34 pm
NO food in class is an understood rule that is pointed out in the beginning of the school year, correct? I know my son gets a fat rule book that we read TOGETHER so it's understood what's right and what's wrong. This teacher had EVERY right to take it and put it away. I'm most positive he wouldn't have starved waiting between class to eat the unhealthy snack.
Rules are rules and that's how it's supposed to be. Otherwise, there would be no order in the classrooms or in life for that matter! I can't believe the total lack of disrespect some kids display these days...like a previous commenter mentioned, good parents make good kids...and if this was my son, he would have no sympathy from me.... Oh, and emergency phone calls at work are totally acceptable, just as an emergency text/call are allowed at school....and i think someone needs to learn about spell check! Reply
Jessica Gardner November 10, 2012 at 02:56 pm
It's a rule understood by few except people like Karen who ready all the rules to her child whom I'm sure follows them and does no wrong..
Like Jerry wrote at a recent staff meeting.... No where in his letter does it state this was communicated to the students. Very few employees take emergency calls at work... Except for Karen The rest take personal calls and use work time to be on the Internet and conduct personal business.. So again what did the kids learn in English
karen r November 10, 2012 at 03:36 pm
I'm curious to know Jessica's background, age, employment status, and point of her argument? Like I mentioned, if this was my child that was involved, he'd have no sympathy from me because its made very clear in Jerry's note that he has to repetitively say NO food in the classroom...his job shouldn't have to be this. It should only have to be said once and that's it. His job is to educate, not babysit. Jessica obviously thinks its okay to not follow set rules and let the children rule the classroom. By the looks of her grammar, punctuation, and spelling, she was one or is one that didn't pay attention in class either...
Jessica Gardner November 10, 2012 at 09:13 pm
Jessica doesn't think it's okay to not follow rules, what I've stated is if rules are not enforced for months or years at a time and then one day in one class only enforced that is the problem.
I am a student And if you think learning is going on in the class come and sit in a jr high class one day huge eye opener And just so you know the quiet kids like yours are the ones eating quietly in class and throwing the wrappers on the ground.
karen r November 10, 2012 at 09:32 pm
Funny, because Jessica is now speaking about herself as a third person...my son, Jessica, IS in Jr. High school, too, in Castro valley and he is thankfully, a quiet kid. He knows right from wrong and doesn't feel the need to eat during class. He KNOWS AND APPRECIATES that classroom time is for LEARNING, NOT eating, and the rules only need to be told to him ONCE and the consequences he faces by breaking ANY RULES are ones he'll have to face. When you follow rules and pay attention, your grades and life will reflect such. Good parents make good kids that end up being productive and upstanding adults. Enough said.
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 01:30 am
He is not the norm if in fact what you say is true.
Not every student is raised like you and your son. And maybe just maybe that was the only food this boy had to eat for the day.... of course rules are rules and so what did this class learn? Hide your food from teacher and eat in the next class and for all the other students what did they learn???they learned this teacher has no control of his class enough said
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 01:33 am
All the kids good and what BAD are in the same class and horror of horror friends
All I'm saying is be consistent If your not consistent with your rules parent or teacher and then one day decide to enforce them there will be chaos And this shouldn't be a surprise
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 01:36 am
Karen
If your going to critize my spelling you might want to spell check yours too! And people who put their kids up on a pedestal shouldn't be surprised when they end up like the other kids they are in school with
karen r November 11, 2012 at 02:50 am
Truth hurts. Good parents raise respectable kids. Teacher has no control of his class because he has to deal with a bunch of jacka**es that have the same thought processes such as you.
Maybe one day when you grow up you'll realize that teachers get paid practically nothing to teach and maybe then you'll get that he shouldn't have to keep repeating NO FOOD in the classroom and yes, his job is to teach. Can't teach when you're disciplining...and again, there's always lunchtime for eating...I don't sit at my desk at work with food at it. I'd get disciplined or fired....The rules at work are the same, you eat at lunch....it's all about respect and obviously many aren't learning this where they should, at home. Good luck in life if you think what the teacher did was wrong.
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 10:17 am
wow Karen now your calling me a jackass just because I have a different opinion than you? If your son had a different opinion than you that is what you would call him?
This article never stated he addressed this issue with his students what Jerry says is he decided one day to enforce a rule. What I said was in order not to have all this disruption all he had to do was state rules are now being enforced. Don't be surprised one day in an teenage act of rebellion your child heaven forbid eats something outside of the designated lunch period!
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 10:22 am
And just for the record teacher don't get paid practically nothing. The only work part of the year they get more holiday, time off, summers off and more retirement money than the average person.
If teachers want to excuse their bad teacher because of their pay go get another job, we the student need teachers with no excuses! We needs teachers who are consistent and we deserve all of this. We are 12,13,14 years old and you want us to have the maturity of a thirty something yet you are the one name calling about a different opinion now who needs to mature?
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 10:26 am
@karen
Good thing your not a teacher.
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 10:31 am
Jerry himself states in his previous column why students are failing that a third of his students received F's and he accepts part of the blame for loosing his temper in class...
Really Jerry
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 10:39 am
Your assuming there is a cafeteria at this brand new school Jerry teaches at!
Not! So where are the students supposed to eat their healthy food at?
karen r November 11, 2012 at 01:58 pm
Yes, Jessica, most teachers get paid practically nothing AND have to come out of pocket to buy supplies. New teachers start out making about $30k a year. Break that down over a full year because they don't get paid during the summer months and try to live on that.. And YOU'RE also right about me thankfully not being a teacher because at your grade level, you absolutely should know the right way to use YOUR AND YOU'RE. Stick to paying attention in the classroom and studying. Oh, and read the article over because YOU'RE wrong about him telling students no food OVER AND OVER AGAIN. And if your innocent ears haven't heard the word JA before, I don't sugar coat things and if you stopped with the attitude and sat in class opened your eyes and ears and shut your mouth, you may actually learn!
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 02:34 pm
Jerry wrote that he makes 82 k with 8 years experience
So I unlike you have learned to research before I spout out untruths
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 02:37 pm
What I have learned from this article and this conversation is that people like you are very closed minded.
There are teachers out there that inspire other students to learn there are also people in this world that do good and inspire others to be like them. You are neither
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 02:39 pm
And for someone to make 82k plus benefits working less than 7 months a year if your not happy leave go work at a private school with your obedient students less money and less benefits
And let another teacher take your place
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 02:41 pm
I don't have an attitude and I sit in class and watch all this disruption and then the teacher wonder why is a third of my class failing?
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 02:46 pm
Jerry's own article states new teacher start at 49k
and supplies teachers buy are a tax write off why should we students suffer because they are paid lowest of low
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 02:54 pm
You might want to ask your son or google your vs you're
because once again your wring
karen r November 11, 2012 at 02:57 pm
Honey, YOU'RE (you are) WRONG....and arguing with me is making you look even more uneducated....
karen r November 11, 2012 at 03:59 pm
Oh and one last thought...I DO NOT ALLOW my son to go online, sign up for anything using his full name, tell the public what grade/school he's in (either canyon or creekside) and talk to strangers (yes, me) because this is how you can get into A LOT of trouble....btw.... where are your parents?!
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 04:10 pm
My mom knows and approves, she allows me to have an opinion different from hers, and she doesn't resort to name calling when an opinion is different from hers.
karen r November 11, 2012 at 04:13 pm
And I guess your mom doesn't watch "to catch a predator" either...
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 04:16 pm
Skills that will help me in debate class and in college and life.
I'm not so stupid to use my last name or school an erroneous assumption on your part along with your condescending remark about my parents.
Jessica Gardner November 11, 2012 at 04:20 pm
The tag line states
learning is primary the right answer secondary Since you already have all the answers.... I'm on here to give an opinion and to learn I don't preach I have the right answers
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